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12/30/05
Norm Nielsen
I attended your public presentation last night (12/29/05). I left thinking that yours is a visionary project to infill downtown Bellingham while ameliorating sprawl outside of the city. As for the many comments regarding downtown parking, I think your critics don't understand that if you plan for cars, then you get more cars. If you plan for pedestrians and bicyclists, then you get more pedestrians and bicyclists. I think that your project will ultimately promote a more livable downtown Bellingham with a sense of place that would attract other people wishing to quit their car habits. The way to get cars off the roads and out of parking spaces is to make a livable city in which citizens can readily walk and bike to work and services. The data from several urban revitalization projects support this conclusion.
Norm,
Thank you for attending our public information meeting, and for your positive feedback. It is truly appreciated.
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12/28/05
Michael DeMan
The initial description says one story retail and then all residential above that. Will there be any commercial space at all?
It seems that so many developers are currently focused on residential and I wonder if we're not going to see saturation in the market in a few more years.
Also, the "Village Center" model for sustainable growth in Bellingham envisions a mix of retail, commercial and residential to create vibrant communities and also reduce where possible traffic and other infrastructure loads.
Although downtown has a good amount of commercial space available already, most of it is older buildings and typically are lacking in one or more ammeneties that newer office buildings can provide.
Thanks,
Mike DeMan
Mike,
Thanks for your comments.¬ We appreciate the feedback.
When we were first coming up with the concept of Bay View Tower, our¬initial plans¬included four floors of commercial space.¬ However, we discovered that Bellingham's commercial market is¬somewhat saturated at the moment.¬ In addition, we took into consideration Vancouver's experience - i.e.,¬their initial infill plans¬substantially overestimated the amount of commercial space needed vis a vis downtown residential space (Gordon Price discussed this issue during¬his recent lecture in Bellingham).¬¬ As a result, we abandoned¬our initial plan to¬include above-ground commercial space within Bay View Tower.
That being said, Bay View Tower will include¬two¬commercial / retail¬units at the ground level.¬ We intend to finish the ground-level units so that they can be used either for retail or as commercial office space.
We¬agree that the "Village Center" model for Bellingham involves a mix of residential, commercial, and retail, all within neighborhood-scale walking distance.¬ A vibrant downtown core requires a complete spectrum of uses and amenities, the utilization of which¬should not require getting in a car and driving to points distant.¬ However, that doesn't necessarily¬mean every¬use need be¬included within each building structure in the downtown core.¬¬ For example, the Daylight Building - right next door to the Bay View Tower site - is largely comprised of retail and commercial space.¬¬The Baron Telecommunications Building and Benchmark Buildings are as well¬(located directly behind the Bay View Tower site, on Railroad).¬ These buildings, while older,¬have been¬remodeled and updated quite nicely.
We also agree with you¬that much of the commercial space within Bellingham is located within older buildings.¬ However, market analysis shows that these kinds of older buildings -- which have¬character and personality not found in a typically modern, sterile office environment --¬are actually¬sought after¬as office space, particularly by creative professionals.¬¬ Keeping these older buildings as viable commercial and retail spaces will also ensure that Bellingham¬retains its historical character as redevelopment in the downtown core progresses.
Furthermore, the rapid development of web-based and wireless services (such as file sharing, ubiquitous email, remote printing, wi-max, etc.) means that hard-wired modern amenities are becoming less and less important in the office workspace.¬ That being said, if demand arises for more modern office space within a downtown Bellingham¬office tower, it is safe to¬predict that a developer will not be far behind with a proposal along the lines you suggest.
Since its inception, Bay View Tower has been about¬creating a building¬consistent with what Bellingham's residents have said they want in their downtown, as reflected in the City's Comprehensive Plan.¬ Accordingly, we again¬thank you for your commentary and feedback.¬ We are holding a¬community meeting¬to provide information about¬Bay View Tower on December 29, at¬7:00 p.m.,¬in the¬basement of¬the Bellingham Public Library.¬ We hope you'll have time to attend, and provide any other feedback you might have.
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11/28/05
Jeff
I'm sure you have done your homework, so how can you then presume that the economy in Bellingham is such that persons who work here will be able to afford the high prices at which no doubt your condos will be selling?
I thought it was interesting when you stated "It is worth noting that some of the first buyers and residents will be the people who are working to bring Bay View Tower to the community".
Of course, who wouldn't want to invest in their project and see it get off the ground? Furthermore, do you realize that the police and EMS services are currently stretched to their capacity? So by adding another 100 residents, don't you think this might compound the problem?
Thank you for writing. Your first question goes to the question of affordable housing. Gordon Price, a four-term Vancouver City Councillor and current professor of urban planning at the University of British Columbia, recently spoke to this issue in a series of lectures here in Bellingham. Mr. Price's message was that a vibrant downtown core needs a mix of housing prices, rather than a pre-established affordability benchmark for every given residence constructed downtown. Simply put, a healthy community provides a place to live for the people working within the community, at all income levels. For this reason, we were happy to learn that the Bellingham / Whatcom Housing Authority is planning two high-quality affordable housing buildings near Bay View Tower, and this in part had an impact on our concept and intended pricing. Any good plan considers what is going on around it.
Obviously, not everyone in Bellingham will be able to afford a unit in Bay View Tower (and no one is pretending they will). We expect prices will start in a range commensurate with equivalent single-family homes. Analysis has shown that people will choose to live in condos rather than single-family homes if there is a reasonably equivalent alternative. Bay View Tower will provide a viable alternative to single family residences, and the attendant sprawl that comes along with them. If we want to keep Whatcom County from looking like Snohomish County within our lifetimes, we need to make those alternatives available.
If Bellingham has inadequate police and EMS services, then we need to address those issues as a City. People are coming to this area (whether or not we have adequate police and EMS service), and directing them into more suburban sprawl won't help matters. Police and EMS will be far less stretched by 120 condo units in a concentrated area of existing service than by 120 single family residences in a totally new service area.
We would suspect that all builders want their projects to get off the ground, but that doesn't mean they want to live there. Our point is that we intend to build a quality building, the kind of place in which we ourselves intend to live.
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10/26/05
Dale
This is a spectacular looking building. It will be quite a centerpiece for Bellinghams' downtown core. It will no doubt genrate some economic growth for the downtown area. It's a good looking building that appears to try and blend in with the historic buildings nearby. I stll have a couple of concerns: 1. How is the citys' infrastructure going to be iimpacted by this strucure (police, fire, public works ect) 2. How is this going to help our "affordable housing" issue we have in Bellingham. These appear to be high end view condos similar to Fairhaven and others being built in the area.
Thank you for your comments and questions.
In answer to your first question: One of the main reasons that urban infill makes sense (as opposed to suburban sprawl) is that there is already existing infrastructure in place that can accommodate residential growth. Our initial studies show that the utility infrastructure in the immediate area (such as water, sewer, and electrical service) is adequate to handle our project's requirements. In the case of storm sewer capacity, the vegetated roof we are planning will actually decrease surface water runoff. We do not expect that 100 additional residences downtown will substantially increase police and fire requirements. During construction, we will work closely with the City police department to ensure that impacts to traffic are minimized, by scheduling material delivery at off-peak times.
In answer to your second question: You are correct - Bay View Tower will provide higher-end residences, but we also agree with you that affordable housing is a critical part of a healthy downtown community. If people cannot afford to live in the places where they work, it leads to long commutes to areas with more affordable housing. When we were initially planning Bay View Tower, we were happy to discover that the Whatcom Housing Authority is planning two high-quality affordable housing projects within blocks of Bay View Tower, and this in part informed our decision about the kind of condominiums we would be offering in Bay View Tower. At this point, there are no higher-end view condos in downtown Bellingham. We think that Bay View Tower will form just one part of a diverse and vibrant downtown. Finally, we would note that condominiums are subject to economic rules of supply and demand, and, accordingly, the best way to make condominiums more affordable is to build more of them.
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10/24/05
Lance
I think the tower is a pleasant addition to the city. It will be addressing the current problem of sprawl, by increasing density downtown which will have many positive effects, such as decreased dependency on autos, increased revenue to independent downtown shops, and the beautiful building will add a sense of civic pride.
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10/21/05
Bryan
Having left Bellingham 20 years ago, I'm surprised by this project. The past few times I've been in Bellingham, I was dismayed by the sprawl that has occurred, and this project addresses that beautifully. Good luck.
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